As with many of these
clear and specific text that establish as firm clear position Biblically.
A good rule to go by:
Re: Scripture "meanings"
is:
If a text is clear
in it’s sense, seek no other sense or you probably end up with Non-sense.
So many of these text
do make clear literal sense and are in harmony, to seek another
meaning from clear text, example: the Seal of God is the Holy Spirit
or that we are not under and told to cast out the Old Covenant (The10
Commandments) its adultery to be under both Covenants. To seek another
sense in the full balance of Scripture is to go beyond the clear instruction
pertaining to these teachings, ones runs the risk of ending up with non-sense.
As Born Again Christians
we are to be living sacrifices, we are not our own we have been bought
with a price, it is no longer I that live but Christ that lives in me.
We are to live by
faith, yielding and led by the Holy Spirit.
So what day do we
worship God on? Saturday? Sunday? NO!
Every day!
What Day is the Sabbath?
Saturday ? Sunday? NO! The Sabbath is a Sign and Jesus is the Revealed
Rest. Today is the Day! Today if you here HIS voice do not harden your
heart, enter in to the true rest that Christ provides, make every effort
to enter in.
Is there a Scripture
that says what day we are to worship God on? NO!
Not ONE Bible
verse gives us instruction on how to WORSHIP on the Sabbath!
The only Scripture
is forsake not the fellowship of the Brethren.
Again the scenario
of modern day Sabbatarians who judge people for worshipping on any day
other than Saturday as "deceived"- "worshipping satan".
This is yet another UNFOUNDED doctrine of man that condemns some, to elevate
and seemingly pat on the back the one’s spreading this teaching yet it
is Biblically lacking in any Scriptural merit.
Paul's letters
were to Gentile Christians who had no background in Sabbath-keeping.
How strange that they
had no instruction, warning or encouragement from Paul on this matter!
They certainly needed reproof and instruction on nearly every other fundamental
matter.
Yet the Apostle Paul
taught the Full Gospel of God (Romans 15:9) and (Acts (20:27) yet there
is no evidence that Paul taught Gentiles to whom his ministry
was devoted anything on the Sabbath Day being Saturday or
any other Day for that matter.
God knows the Beginning
to the End, should this "special message" be true yet God failed
to lead Paul who was Clearly led by the Holy Spirit in this truth
of Saturday Sabbath to the non Sabbatarian Community of his Day. God failed
to lead any of the New Covenant writers on this "Special message
truth".
Paul taught these
gentiles explicitly what sinning was, in very clear terms yet again no
mention of Sabbath Day breaking or teaching, a few examples are
Gal5: 19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication,
uncleanness, lewdness, 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies,
outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissension, heresies, 5:21 envy,
murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand,
just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things
will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cor 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral
people. 5:10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people
of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since
then you would need to go out of the world. 5:11 But now I have written
to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually
immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or
an extortioner-not even to eat with such a person.
Eph 5:5-7 For
this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who
is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things
the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 5:7 Therefore do
not be partakers with them.
Galatians 5:13 Do
not allow your freedom as a opportunity for the Flesh
Remember: Scripture
meaning’s
If a text is clear
in it’s sense, seek no other sense, or you might end up with non-sense.
FLASH
BACK ON ALL RECAPS:
1st Recap:
The Old Covenant is specifically:
That which is on 2
Tablets of stone, The Tablets of the Covenant, The Tablets of the 10 Commandments.
Duet 4:13, Duet 9:9, Duet 9:11, Exodus 34:28, Duet 9:15. & Duet 10:4
In Corinthians the
tablets of stone (2 Cor 3:3) of the "Old Covenant"(2 Cor 3:14)
is described as:
2 Corinthians 3:6 "A Ministry
that kills"
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2 Corinthians 3:7 "A ministry
of Death"
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2 Corinthians 3:7 "Its fading"/"passing
away"
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2 Corinthians 3:9
"A ministry of condemnation"
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2 Corinthians 3:9 A
ministry that (once) had Glory
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2 Corinthians
3:10 "It has No glory"!(now)
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2 Corinthians 3:11 & 14 "That
which is passing away" / "set aside"
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2 Corinthians 3:15&16 "A veil
that keeps you from seeing Christ"!
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In Galatians speaking
of the Old Covenant:
The Old is of the
FLESH [Gal 4:23] (Works)
The New is of the
SPIRIT [Gal 4:29] (Faith).
We are Biblically commanded to "cast out the Old Covenant"
[Gal 4:30],
The Old Covenant
is put aside "IN" Christ. [2 Corinthians 3:vs11,13,&14].
Those holding onto the Old Covenant -10 Commandments- will persecute those
of the New Covenant. [Gal 4:29]
There is a New Covenant
coming that is NOT like the Old Covenant of Moses.[Jeremiah 31:31]
In Romans Paul speaks of the Old Covenant / Moral Law in this manner:
We die to the Old
Covenant so to bear fruit for God [Romans7:4]
It is ADULTERY
if one joins with another wife (New Covenant) while alive to the
other
wife (Old
Covenant). [Romans 7:3]
But now we have been
delivered from the law (Old Covenant) In Christ. [Romans 7:6]
We are delivered from
the law, having died to what we were held by. [Romans 7:6]
It is NOT the same
as the Old Covenant but now on our hearts because it would have the same
fruit.
Changing the location
from tablets of stone to the heart, doesn’t make it adultery.
The changing of location
doesn’t make it adultery! (Same wife, different bed)
Changing of the covenants
does make it adultery (Different wife, while alive to the other).
Again IF the
covenant is the SAME then how can it be adultery to join the two together?
(ROM 7:1-4)
BUT it is not adultery
if the first wife dies.
That is why we are
to die to the Mosaic Covenant. (Which the Bible specifies, specifically
as the Ten Commandments) Why?
So we can serve in
the "new way" of the Spirit NOT in the "old way" of
the "written code"(law) "Romans 7:6
2) Recap…. When the
Bible says:
The Bible says the
Law was ADDED because of transgressions. Then it was added! [Gal319]
The Bible says the
law made sin abound. Then that is what it does. [Romans 5:20]
The Bible says the
law makes known to us what sin is. Then it is so. [Romans 7:7]
The Bible says the
law is in charge to bring people to Christ. Then that is what it does.
[Gal 3:24]
The Bible says the
law is NOT for the righteous, then it is indeed so. [1 Tim 1:8]
The Bible says the
law leaves us helpless in need of a Saviour. It is so. [Romans 8:2-3]
The Bible says the
law brings death, then that is what it does. [Romans 8:2] [2 Cor 3:7]
The Bible says that
the law is put aside "IN CHRIST" then that is what happens.
[2 Cor 3:14]
The Bible says we
are to cast out the bondwoman (10 Commandments), then it is to be done.[Gal
4:30]
The Bible say after
faith has come you are not under the law, then that is indeed so. [Gal
3:25]
The Bible says Christian’s
are dead to the law, then that is what you are. [Romans 7:4]
When the Bible says
Christ is the end of the Law for Believers. It is indeed so. [Romans 10:4]
When the Bible says
the law was added UNTIL Christ. Then that is indeed so. [Gal 3:19]
When the Bible says
the righteous requirement of the law is fulfilled in me through Christ,
then it is so.
When the Bible says
the law incl. (10 Commandments) is fulfilled IN me not BY me, then that
is indeed so. [Romans 8:4]
3) Recap:
SDA point of view
is that "The whole law and the prophets hang on the 10 Commandments".
Jesus and Scripture’s
view is "That the 10 Commandments and the prophets hang on 2
Commandments outside of the 10 Commandments".
Jesus quoted the greatest
law as 2 Ceremonial laws, not 2 of the 10 Commandments! And the WHOLE
law and the prophets depend upon two laws outside of the 10 Commandments.
(Matt 22:40)
The Ten Commandments
are not pre-existent or eternal they were give through Moses (Duet 5:3)
And Specifically the
Ten Commandments was not given BEFORE Moses (Duet 5:3)
"The law"
came though Moses (John 1:17 & Romans 5:13-14)
Sin was BEFORE the
law. (Romans 5:13)
Sin was not accounted
UNTIL Moses. (Romans 5:14)
The law was added
430 later and is UNTIL Christ (Gal 3:19)
The Sabbath was made
known (for the first time through Moses) not reminded. [Nehemiah
9:13-14]
Even Gods Direct
words state that he gave (not reminded) the Mosaic Covenant (10 Commandments)
through Moses. God did this in the full knowledge that the 10 Commandments
had 6 times in Moses writing been called the Covenant. When did God in
his own words give them his Covenant of 10 Commandments? After
he took them out of Egypt!! [Jeremiah 31:32]
Is God himself misleading
us when he gave mankind his 10 Commandments!
The Sabbatarian Doctrine
suggests so.
Before Moses, The
Bibles silence on the forefathers keeping the Sabbath is in harmony with
all Scripture.
The modern day ceremonial
/ Moral law Doctrine and specifically the 10 Commandments existing before
the fall and /or given before Moses’ time does not stand up to the Biblical
test and is in conflict with the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit.
Why? A=(All the above
scriptures)
The source
of such teaching is out of step with the Holy Spirit.
4) Recap
Circumcision:
Are we to keep it?
After all we are Abraham’s heirs.
It is an everlasting
Covenant.
God tells us to keep
it, establishing that he is, "GOD to us". (Genesis 17:7)
There is a severe
warning if you break it! You’ll be cut off from God’s people.!!!
However the
REVEALED TRUTH is:
The circumcision of
the foreskin was a shadow.
Christ is the fulfilling
and TRUTH of the shadow.
When we are "IN
HIM" we do fulfill the truth of shadow and keep it requirements.
To go back and try
to fulfill and adhere to the shadow requirements (foreskin circumcision)
Christ profits you nothing!
And again to try to
fulfill the requirements of the shadow (foreskin circumcision) even with
the best of intentions and out of an act of love toward
God. "Faith without works is dead". Is to deny what Christ
has fulfilled for us.
INDEED Christ profits
you nothing.
For one has undermined
and negated the work of the Cross.
Recap 5
If Isa 66:23 Is a
proof text for Sabbath keeping then we must also keep the NEW MOON feast
(A ceremonial law)
No-one is a commandment
keeper in themselves it is only by faith IN Christ.
It is only by "Adoption
that we qualify" to pass the test THUS
We are no longer under
the Old Covenant / Government any more.
The Old Covenant/
Government no longer has a "hold" on us.
The Old Covenant Laws
"Held us"(Romans7:6) we were in "Bondage to them"
(Gal 4:3) the Hand writing of requirements that stood against us"(Colossians
3:13-16) -"these weak and basic principles"(Gal 4:3-11)&(Colossians
2:8-10) we are to not walk in the old way of the law but in the New way
of the Spirit.(Romans 7:6).
Recap 6
There are Blood types
associated with important Covenants.
Abrahamic Covenant
=Blood of "Man made in God’s image".
Mosaic Covenant =Blood
of animals definitely not made in God’s image
New Covenant = The
Blood of God’s only Son. God himself.
By all accounts the
Mosaic Covenant (10 Commandments) is the lesser blood type of the Covenants.
The Sabbath day is
a sign of the Old Covenant.
The Old Testament
Believer did not enter the true rest OF God. (Hebrews 4:11).
They did not enter
it with Faith.
However we New Covenant
believers are encouraged to enter the Rest of God.
The creation account
of days "morning and evening" demonstrates entering the constant
rest on the seventh day, confirmed with the Holy Spirit not writing evening
and morning on that seventh day. (God did not go back to creating.)
The cutting away of
the flesh in circumcision (a sign) did not cast away the Adamic
flesh, it did not cast away the sinful nature of the old
man.
But the "New
Covenant" revealed Truth "IN CHRIST" does!
The keeping of the
Sabbath Day (a sign) does not provide the rest from mans
labour to appease God- the peace of eternal security of walking in freedom
from sins bondage. But the "New Covenant" revealed truth
"IN CHRIST" does!
Circumcision was a
"TYPE", of "casting away the flesh nature"
that Christ provides.
So is the Sabbath
a "TYPE" of the Rest that Christ provides.
The Sabbath day is
a shadow.
The revealed true
rest is not the Sabbath Day, but Christ himself.
And again to try to
fulfill the requirements of the shadow (foreskin circumcision) even with
the "best of intentions" and out of an act of love
toward God. "Faith without works is dead". Is to deny
what Christ has fulfilled for us. INDEED Christ profits you nothing. For
one has undermined and negated the work-or power of the Cross.
The same is true for
the other sign "the Sabbath" one may justify if you love
God and want to please him then surely you are going to obey his commandment
on Sabbath keeping, it is a ever lasting Covenant, Quoting: "faith
without works is dead". To follow Sabbath keeping on this
basis is to deny and negate the power of the cross and the TRUE rest
that Christ provides. Indeed one has missed the whole point.
The Christian walk
is based on faith not works.
Galatians 3:12
"The (Mosaic) Law is not based on faith"…
The Covenant (10
Commandments) of Moses looks to the outside don’t commit adultery,
but the Law of Christ looks to the heart and teaches and leads
us to not even look lustfully.
The Covenant of Moses
says, "do not murder" But the law of Christ teaches us to love
(Deals with the Heart) so as to not hate and therefore have murdered already
in your heart.
The New Covenant/
Government has similar laws to the Old Covenant/ Government.
However the New Covenant
/Government does not teach Sabbath Day keeping nor Can the Old Covenant
/Government have any hold over us, for those of us who are in the New
Covenant relationship.
The Book of 1 John
is directed to Born Again New Covenant believers.
1 John says commands
NOT 10 Commandments
John explains what
the Commandments of God are: that is to believe in Jesus Christ his son.
The law and the prophets
spoke of Jesus.
Christ our example
kept the law until the time set by his Father.
Christ kept ceremonial
laws and circumcision as well; we however are commanded not too.
God made many
things Holy not only the Sabbath an invalid argument for Sabbatarians.
The only Sunset to
sunset instruction for Sabbath keeping is in a Ceremonial Sabbath.
The Seal of God is
clearly taught 3 times in the Bible, specifically that it is the Holy
Spirit.
Paul’s ministry was
to Gentiles yet:
In all the instruction
that was required to the Gentile Community and despite much of this foundational
teaching there is no mention of Saturday Sabbath instruction.
Paul never teaches
Sabbath keeping to Gentiles yet he taught the full council of God.
And the list goes
on and on.
These are true New
Covenant Biblical perspectives.
All other types of
justifications for keeping the 10 Commandments are really red herrings.
Such as the Catholic
Church claim they changed the Day.
Because they say it,
does that make it RELIABLE?
There are screeds
of documents of the early Church keeping other than the Saturday Sabbath.
Some provided at the end of this study.
However the real issue
is this.
1) THE OLD COVENANT
IS SCRIPTURALLY & SPECIFICALLY THE 10 COMMANDMENTS. PERIOD!
2) WE AS CHRISTIANS
"IN CHRIST" ARE NOT UNDER THE OLD COVENANT. PERIOD!
3) WE AS CHRISTIANS
"IN CHRIST" ARE UNDER THE NEW COVENANT.PERIOD!
4) WE CANNOT BE UNDER
THE OLD AND THE NEW COVENANTS AT THE SAME TIME THAT IS ADULTERY. PERIOD!
(Romans 7:1-7) There are No "COMBO DEALS" IN CHRIST.PERIOD!
5) THE NEW COVENANT
IS NOT THE SAME AS THE OLD COVENANT. PERIOD!
6) THERE IS NO INSTRUCTION
FOR NEW COVENANT BELIEVERS TO KEEP A SABBATH DAY.PERIOD!
There is a definite
cutting away from the Old to belong to the New
The NEW gives us UNDERSTANDING
and fulfillment of the OLD.
Much of the Old is
in the New!
Not ALL of
the Old is in the New!
To try to sustain
Saturday Sabbath for the New Covenant Believer there is a ton of clear
concise Scripture one needs to explain and rationalize away.
Some other Groups
have prioritized their "special remnant beliefs" ahead of clear
concise Scripture and have ended up writing their own bibles to substantiate
their position. {(JW’s and Mormons) whom also believe they are "the
true Remnant Church"}.
Adventism is not in
good healthy company in this regard.
Although I must qualify:
I’m in no way suggesting they are anywhere in the same category. The Focus
of this study being not on the SDA people and their faith in Christ but
on the doctrines of the Special Message & Moral law that is shown
to be Biblically unfounded!
The writings of EGW
and Church doctrine –or- the Holy Spirit & the Bible.
Furthermore Sabbatarians
believe that the Sabbath in the lasts days is to be 1 last final test
to determine those that are truly loyal to God and those that are not.
Those that accept
the Sabbath receive the "seal of God". (lacking scriptural
evidence)
Those that do not
accept this "truth" (final test) of Saturday Sabbath
keeping will receive the "Mark of the Beast" and lose
their Salvation.
Romans 5:9-11
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved
from wrath through Him. 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled
to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled,
we shall be saved by His life. 5:11 And not only that, but we also rejoice
in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received
the reconciliation.
John 10:28
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither
shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son
of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that
you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
John 7:3"And
this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus
Christ whom You have sent.
John 3:15"that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
In essence Sabbatarians
suggest that: The sealing of the Holy Spirit in Ephesians 1 & 4 some
how is not good enough of a seal. This seal that God places is broken.
These New Covenant Believers in Jesus Christ, bought by the Blood of Jesus,
being filled by the Holy Spirit, Sealed by the Holy Spirit are actually
damned and eternally lost by a Doctrine that is
not even explained clearly in the Scriptures and lacks Scriptural support!
For such an important
test, God in his word has left this aspect of the Sabbath Keeping resoundingly
silent. In addition there is so much clear literal specific text that
tells us to cast out , die to etc…(10 Commandments) Is God a deceiver
that those who follow New Covenant COMMANDS to "Cast out" Die
to etc ..are in fact being deceived by God.
Isn’t God, a God of
LOVE who desires ALL to come into repentance?
If the "Special
message" is to be believed then God has placed misinformation
in his Word that deceives New Covenant Bible believers from the "real
truth". This "real truth" (special message)
is substantiated primarily though human reasoning and writings outside
of Scripture and much emphasis on a few individual isolated text that
require much interpretation and human reasoning.
If the sabbatarian
message is to be believed, God is then misleading and deceptive,
Sabotaging his own
method of guidance (the Bible) from the "real truth".
Thwarting his own
plans for all men to come into a knowledge of him.
Although Sabbatarians
are genuine and sincere people with big hearts.
The Sabbatarian "Special
Message" does not stand up to the Scriptural test.
This is not to say
you can’t worship on Saturday, of course one can and should! Just as much
as and equally any day. But not as a fulfilling of the 4th
Commandment. The Special Message is unbiblical, condemning and lacking
Scriptural evidence. In essence it is a false teaching. The source of
such teaching is fallible and in error according to Scripture. Running
against the Holy Spirits inspiration of the Word.
If one feels uncomfortable
with this line of questioning, why?
Its just the same
line of questioning that the "special message" challenges to
the non Sabbatarian Bible believing community.
If you’re a Sabbatarian:
The very same standard
of judgement that you’ve asked of others, is now being asked of you!
That’s fair isn’t
it?
Furthermore this same
standard of judgement that you judged others on, is asked of you on the
very same topic. The 10 Commandments, the Saturday Sabbath.
Does one love Church
more than God?
Prepared to defend
Doctrines and E.G, White --more --than the Bible and God Himself?
If you are feeling
agitated at this line of questioning despite it being based on clear Scriptural
grounds, Imagine how Non Sabbatarians feel when they are being told that
they are worshipping satan are deceived and are Babylon! This study is
not saying you are worshipping satan no need for name calling and nasty
accusations, it is the Scriptures themselves that are addressing any
Denominations Doctrines that don’t line up with the full view of Scripture.
(Balance).
And we as a Church
Body are all subject to the same scrutiny and all should
conform to the revealed Truth of God’s Word.
Where is the Scripture
that says people bought by the Blood of Christ, filled by the Holy Spirit,
who are the body of Christ, the temple of God, those who place their trust
in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and nothing else, are somehow worshipping
satan because they don’t believe the Sabbatarian special message? (Which
by the way is lacking Scriptural substantiation as we have seen).
So again where is
that Scripture proving non Sabbatarians worship satan"? [None!]
Selected Messages
Book 3, page 52, paragraph 2
Not One Heretical
Sentence.--I am now looking over my diaries[* SEE FOOTNOTE, P.
32.] and copies of letters written for several years back. . . . I have
the most
precious matter to reproduce and place before the people in testimony
form. While
I am able to do this work, the people must have things to revive past
history,
that they may see that there is one straight chain of truth, without one
heretical sentence, in that which I have written. This, I am instructed,
is to be
a living letter to all in regard to my faith.--Letter 329a, E.G. WHITE
1905.
One is left with a
decision.
Does one defend the
Word of God – or - Church doctrine & E.G. White.
Does one love Church
more than the God.
TRUTH IS NOT A THING
TRUTH IS NOT A DENOMINATION
!!!
TRUTH IS A
PERSON AND HIS NAME IS JESUS THE SON OF GOD.
A closing remark,
this message addresses:
NOT the SDA people
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but
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The "Special Message"
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NOT the SDA Faith in Christ
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but
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The faith in particular Doctrine(s)
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NOT the person E.G. White
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but
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The her writings that are unbiblical
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For the Seventh Day
Adventist to accept this study I personally find difficult to reconcile.
Why?
Not only does it challenge
their Doctrinal belief which is hard enough for any one, but it would
be undermining their baptism into Christ.
Why?
Because of some of
the Seventh Day Adventist baptismal VOWS.
Some of the baptismal
vows depict not a Baptism into the Body of Christ but Baptism into the
Doctrinal organization of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
Out of the 13 Baptismal
vows the following ones hold them to the SDA organization regardless
of later revealed Biblical truth.
Vow 6. I accept
the Ten Commandments as still binding upon Christians; and it is my
purpose by the power of the indwelling Christ, to keep this law, including
the fourth commandment, which requires the observance of the seventh
day of the week as the Sabbath of the Lord.
Vow 8 I accept
the Biblical teaching of spiritual gifts, and believe that the gift
of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church.
(Who does
the Church advocate as having that gift of prophecy? E.G. White).
Vow 9 I believe
in Church Organization, and it is my purpose to support the
church by my tithes and offerings, and by my personal effort and influence.
Vow 11
"I
know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by
the Seventh-day Adventist Church. It is my purpose, by the
grace of God, to order my life in harmony with these principles".
(Biblical or Adventist principles? "As Taught" defines whose.)
Vow 13 I accept that
the Seventh-day Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy,
and that people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted
into its fellowship. I desire to be a member in this local congregation
of the world church."
Think about it, how
can an Adventist Challenge the SDA Denomination on some Doctrine that
maybe is non Scriptural with out jeopardizing their baptism.
I understand why
they would struggle so.
They were baptized
into the Seventh Day Adventist church. Part of the baptism ceremony
is to publicly affirm the 13 vows some of which, is a public declaration
that E.G. WHITE is a prophet and the SDA Denomination is the true
remnant Church.
Which leaves us
with some conclusions to make:
I f E.G.WHITE
is wrong on some issue could she be a false prophet?
Could the church
stance be wrong???
A simply repentance
is all that’s required, however its not that simple
If E.G. White
is wrong on "ANY" of her statements where does this leave
you with the foundation of your faith? What I mean here is, were you
baptized into Christ? or Baptized into the Church, or baptized into
Christ the SDA Church and E.G. White
What I can’t
understand and object strongly to: is why make remnant Doctrines,
E.G. White an issue of baptism at all! Especially on such an
important issue of obedience to Christ!
This
persons baptism is based on Remnant doctrines on speculative interpretations
of the Book of Revelations!! How objective is that?
Furthermore most
that I know who are being baptized have just come to the Lord or are
young in age and not scholarly in Biblical matters. How would they
know, how to test whether a prophet is true or not, or remnant Doctrines
at their level of understanding? Mere Babes in Christ!
I ask you honestly…stand
on the sideline How can one be objective to the truth of God that
(may) conflict with your church doctrine.
Can one be objective
when the very foundation of your public declaration of being a Christian
IS intertwined with defending E.G. White as a prophet? Your
Baptismal public declaration to Jesus Christ is intertwined with defending
the SDA Denomination as the "Remnant Church" and having
the gift of prophecy.
(E.G. White)
How can the Holy
Spirit lead, one way, or the other, when one is legislated as to what
truth, is truth.
I Believe its very
subtle but also very real. No wonder so may SDA’s are so defensive, the
very foundation of their baptism, their declaration of obedience to Christ
is in jeopardy.
Surely someone can
see my point?
However I desire this
not to be the focus of replies but rather your Scriptural replies to the
study would be appreciated, should the above objection of Baptism not
cloud ones objectivity.
Yes this study has
turned out to rebut the Sabbatarian position of the "Special Message"
It does so from a "Balanced Biblical perspective", many of the
claims of Sabbatarians as shown in this study have significant flaws and
are based on E.G. White & reasoning rather than Scripture and
the Balance thereof.
No need to resort
to name calling of "Deceived" - "satan worshippers"-
"Sunday is satan’s Sabbath" or Babylonians, the Scriptures in
full balance, say what they say, and the Sabbatarian position of accusation
is found lacking evidence. Of the Biblical kind.
I believe it important
to outline nothing in these messages takes away from ones relationship
In Jesus Christ on the contrary it should enhance it. Nothing here challenges
ones relationship with Jesus Christ.
But rather it may
well challenge ones faith in a denominational doctrine or writings of
E.G. White.
None the less, this
does not undermine one’s FAITH in Jesus Christ but can enhance it.
As opposed to calling
one deceived or a satan worshipper or Babylon now that is somewhat different,
that attacks one faith so as to say that that person is not worshipping
Jesus Christ. The premise for such an attack, has in this study I believe
shown that these accusations are lacking Scriptural merit. Those holding
to such "Special Message" teaching, have much Scriptural clear
text to wade through with none other than non Scriptural writings and
Human reasoning or much emphasis on singular out of context isolated texts.
Since so much
of the SDA doctrine hinges on the Saturday Sabbath it takes a brave
person to acknowledge such error(s) to swallow ones pride as it were.
Again I recap: In
essence Sabbatarians suggest that: The sealing of the Holy Spirit in Ephesians
1 & 4 some how is not good enough of a seal. This seal that God places
is broken. These New Covenant Believers in Jesus Christ, bought by the
Blood of Jesus, being filled by the Holy Spirit, Sealed by the Holy Spirit
are actually damned and eternally lost by a Doctrine
that is not even explained clearly in the Scriptures and lacks Scriptural
support!
May God bless your
walk IN him.
Regards
Brandon Neuhaus
For comments
Email me at:
brandon@enternet.co.nz
EVIDENCE
THAT CHRISTIANS KEPT OTHER DAYS THAN SATURDAY
Please note this is
not saying that Sunday is THE Sabbath.
It is proof that Saturday
Sabbath was not always the day of worship for the early
Christian.
The common remark
that Constantine changed the day is false, Constantine formalized
a day, but the day already existed.
- 74 AD The Letter
of Barnabas "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day
also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6-8).
- 90 AD The Didache
"But every Lord's day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread,
and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that
your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with
his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your
sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14).
- 90AD DIDACHE: ...every
Lord's day, hold your solemn assemblies, and rejoice: for he will be
guilty of sin who fasts on the Lord's day, being the day of the resurrection...
(Constitutions of the Holy Apostles, Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 7, pg.
449)
- 90AD DIDACHE: And
on the day of our Lord's resurrection, which is the Lord's day, meet
more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus,
and sent Him to us, and condescended to let Him suffer, and raised Him
from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not
assemble on that day to hear the saving word concerning the resurrection...?
(Constitutions of the Holy Apostles, Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 7, pg.
423)
- 90AD DIDACHE: On
the day of the resurrection of the Lord, that is, the Lord's day, assemble
yourselves together, without fail, giving thanks to God, and praising
Him for those mercies God has bestowed upon you through Christ, and
has delivered you from ignorance, error, and bondage, that your sacrifice
may be unspotted, and acceptable to God, who has said concerning His
universal Church: "In every place shall incense and a pure sacrifice
be offered unto me; for I am a great King, saith the Lord Almighty,
and my name is wonderful among the heathen, [Malachi 1:11, 14] (Constitutions
of the Holy Apostles, Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 7, pg. 471)
- 107AD IGNATIUS:
Be not deceived with strange doctrines, nor with old fables, which are
unprofitable. For if we still live according to the Jewish law, we acknowledge
that we have not received grace... If, therefore, those who were brought
up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new
hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance
of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him
and by His death (which some deny), through which mystery we received
faith, and on account of which we suffer in order that we may be found
disciples of Jesus Christ our only teacher, how shall we be able to
live apart from him for whom even the prophets were looking as their
teacher since they were his disciples in the spirit?... let every friend
of Christ keep the Lord's Day as a festival, the resurrection-day, the
queen and chief of all the days of the week. It is absurd to speak of
Jesus Christ with the tongue, and to cherish in the mind a Judaism,
which has now come to an end. for where there is Christianity there
cannot be Judaism.... These things I address to you, my beloved, not
that I know any of you to be in such a state; but, as less than any
of you, I desire to guard you beforehand. That ye fall not upon the
hooks of vain doctrine, but that you may rather attain to a full assurance
in Christ... (Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, chp 9. Ante-Nicene
Fathers , vol. 1, pg. 62-63.)
- 130AD BARNABAS:
Moreover God says to the Jews, 'Your new moons and Sabbaths 1 cannot
endure.' You see how he says, 'The present Sabbaths are not acceptable
to me, but the Sabbath which I have made in which, when I have rested
from all things, I will make the beginning of the eighth day which is
the beginning of another world.' Wherefore we Christians keep the eighth
day for joy, on which also Jesus arose from the dead and when he appeared
ascended into heaven. (15:8f, The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD, Ante-Nicene
Fathers , vol. 1, pg. 147)
- 150AD EPISTLE OF
THE APOSTLES.- I [Christ] have come into being on the eighth day which
is the day of the Lord. (18)1
- 150AD JUSTIN: ...those
who have persecuted and do persecute Christ, if they do not repent,
shall not inherit anything on the holy mountain. But the Gentiles, who
have believed on Him, and have repented of the sins which they have
committed, they shall receive the inheritance along with the patriarchs
and the prophets, and the just men who are descended from Jacob, even
although they neither keep the Sabbath, nor are circumcised, nor observe
the feasts. Assuredly they shall receive the holy inheritance of God.
(Dialogue With Trypho the Jew, 150-165 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol.
1, page 207)
- 150AD JUSTIN: But
if we do not admit this, we shall be liable to fall into foolish opinion,
as if it were not the same God who existed in the times of Enoch and
all the rest, who neither were circumcised after the flesh, nor observed
Sabbaths, nor any other rites, seeing that Moses enjoined such observances...
For if there was no need of circumcision before Abraham, or of the observance
of Sabbaths, of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses; no more need is
there of them now, after that, according to the will of God, Jesus Christ
the Son of God has been born without sin, of a virgin sprung from the
stock of Abraham. (Dialogue With Trypho the Jew, 150-165 AD, Ante-Nicene
Fathers , vol. 1, page 206)
- 150AD JUSTIN: But
Sunday is the day on which we hold our common assembly, because it is
the first day of the week and Jesus our saviour on the same day rose
from the dead. (First apology of Justin, Ch 68)
- 150AD JUSTIN: Moreover,
all those righteous men already mentioned [after mentioning Adam. Abel,
Enoch, Lot, Noah, Melchizedek, and Abraham], though they kept no Sabbaths,
were pleasing to God; and after them Abraham with all his descendants
until Moses... And you were commanded to keep Sabbaths, that you might
retain the memorial of God. For His word makes this announcement, saying,
"That you may know that I am God who redeemed you." (Dialogue With Trypho
the Jew, 150-165 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol. 1, page 204)
- 150AD JUSTIN: The
commandment of circumcision, requiring them always to circumcise the
children on the eighth day, was a type of the true circumcision by which
we are circumcised from error and evil through the resurrection from
the dead on the first day of the week of Jesus Christ our Lord. For
the first day of the week, although it is the first of all days, yet
according to the number of the days in a cycle is called the eighth
(while still remaining the first). (Dialogue 41:4)
- 150AD JUSTIN: There
is no other thing for which you blame us, my friends, is there than
this? That we do not live according to the Law, nor, are we circumcised
in the flesh as your forefathers, nor do we observe the Sabbath as you
do. (Dialogue with Trypho 10:1. In verse 3 the Jew Trypho acknowledges
that Christians 'do not keep the Sabbath.')
- 150AD JUSTIN: We
are always together with one another. And for all the things with which
we are supplied we bless the Maker of all through his Son Jesus Christ
and through his Holy Spirit. And on the day called Sunday there is a
gathering together in the same place of all who live in a city or a
rural district. (There follows an account of a Christian worship service,
which is quoted in VII.2.) We all make our assembly in common on the
day of the Sun, since it is the first day, on which God changed the
darkness and matter and made the world, and Jesus Christ our Savior
arose from the dead on the same day. For they crucified him on the day
before Saturn's day, and on the day after (which is the day of the Sun
the appeared to his apostles and taught his disciples these things.
(Apology, 1, 67:1-3, 7; First Apology, 145 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers ,
Vol. 1, pg. 186)
- 190AD CLEMENT OF
ALEXANDRIA: Plato prophetically speaks of the Lord's day in the tenth
book of the Republic, in these words: 'And when seven days have passed
to each of them in the meadow, on the eighth they must go on." (Miscellanies
V.xiv.106.2)
- 200AD BARDESANES:
Wherever we are, we are all called after the one name of Christ Christians.
On one day, the first of the week, we assemble ourselves together (On
Fate)5
- 200AD TERTULLIAN:
"We solemnize the day after Saturday in contradistinction to those who
call this day their Sabbath" (Tertullian's Apology, Ch 16)
- 200AD TERTULLIAN:
Let him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed a balm
of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day because of threat of
death, teach us that in earliest times righteous men kept Sabbath or
practiced circumcision, and so were made friends of God. .. ...Therefore,
since God originated Adam uncircumcised, and inobservant of the Sabbath,
consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering Him sacrifices, uncircumcised
and inobservant of the Sabbath, was by Him commended... Noah also, uncircumcised
- yes, and inobservant of the Sabbath - God freed from the deluge. For
Enoch, too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and inobservant of the
Sabbath, He translated from this world... Melchizedek also, "the priest
of most high God," uncircumcised and inobservant of the Sabbath, was
chosen to the priesthood of God. (An Answer to the Jews 2:10; 4:1, Ante-Nicene
Fathers Vol. 3, page 153)
- 200AD TERTULLIAN:
To us Sabbaths are foreign. (On Idolatry, 14:6)4
- 220AD ORIGEN "On
Sunday none of the actions of the world should be done. If then, you
abstain from all the works of this world and keep yourselves free for
spiritual things, go to church, listen to the readings and divine homilies,
meditate on heavenly things. (Homil. 23 in Numeros 4, PG 12:749)
- 220 AD Origen "Hence
it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the sabbath should have
come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary,
it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to
be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection"
(Commentary on John 2:28).
- 225 AD The Didascalia
"The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there
be service, and the reading of the Holy Scriptures, and the oblation,
because on the first day of the week our Lord rose from the place of
the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world,
and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the
first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven"
(Didascalia 2).
- 250AD CYPRIAN:
The eight day, that is, the first day after the Sabbath, and the Lord's
Day." (Epistle 58, Sec 4)
- 300 AD Victorinus
"The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation
of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of
the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On
the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified
it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on
the Lord's day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And
let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe
any sabbath with the Jews . . . which sabbath he [Christ] in his body
abolished" (The Creation of the World).
- 300AD EUSEBIUS:
[The Ebionites] were accustomed to observe the Sabbath and other Jewish
customs but on the Lord's days to celebrate the same practices as we
in remembrance of the resurrection of the Savior. (Church History Ill.xxvii.5)
- 300 AD Eusebius
of Caesarea "They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care
about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did
not care about observing sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain
kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which
Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols;
nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History
1:4:8).
- 300 AD Eusebius
of Caesarea "[T]he day of his [Christ's] light . . . was the day of
his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and
only truly holy day and the Lord's day, is better than any number of
days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set
apart by the Mosaic Law for feasts, new moons, and sabbaths, which the
Apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality"
(Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186).
- 345 AD Athanasius
"The sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord's day was the
beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in
the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the
sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the
Lord's day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and
Circumcision 3).
MODERN
AUTHORITIES:
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA:
Sunday, first day of the week; in Christianity, the Lord's Day, the weekly
memorial of Jesus Christ's resurrection from the dead. The practice of
Christians gathering together for worship on Sunday dates back to apostolic
times, but details of the actual development of the custom are not clear.
Before the end of the 1st Century AD, the author of Revelation gave the
first day its name of the "Lord's Day" (Rev. 1:10). Saint Justin Martyr
(c. 100-c. 165), philosopher and defender of the Christian faith, in his
writings described the Christians gathered together for worship on the
Lord's Day: the gospels or the Old Testament was read, the presiding minister
preached a sermon, and the group prayed together and celebrated the Lord's
Supper. The emperor Constantine (d. 337), a convert to Christianity, introduced
the first civil legislation concerning Sunday in 321, when he decreed
that all work should cease on Sunday, except that farmers could work if
necessary. This law, aimed at providing time for worship, was followed
later in the same century and in subsequent centuries by further restrictions
on Sunday activities. (15th edition, vol. 11, pg. 392)
ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA:
From the apostolic era to the present it has been customary for Christians
to assemble for communal Sunday services... Civil laws requiring the observance
of Sunday date back at least to Emperor Constantine the Great, who designated
Sunday as a legal day of rest and worship in 321. This law, however was
not specifically Christian, since Sunday was the day of the sun-god for
pagans as well as the Lord's day for Christians. While Constantine thus
managed to please the two major religious groups in the Roman empire,
numerous later law regulating behavior on Sunday have been avowedly Christian.
(Sunday, 1988, pg. 21)
COLLIER'S ENCYCLOPEDIA:
The New Testament contains clear evidence that from a very early period
the first day of the week was observed by Christians as a day of assembly
for "the breaking of bread" and perhaps for the collection of freewill
offerings. (Acts xx:7 and 1 Corinth xvi:2). Justin Martyr in the middle
of the second century describes how "on the day called Sunday" all town
and country Christians assembled for instructions in holy writings, for
prayer distribution of bread and wine, and the collection of alms. Tertullian
declared that the Christians "made Sunday a day of joy, but for other
reasons that to adore the sun which was not part of their religion. (Sunday,
, 1985, pg. 632-633)
HISTORY OF THE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH: The celebration of the Lord's Day in memory of the
resurrection of Christ dates undoubtedly from the apostolic age. Nothing
short of apostolic precedent can account for the universal religious observance
in the churches of the second century. There is no dissenting voice. This
custom is confirmed by the testimonies of the earliest post-apostolic
writers, as Barnabas, Ignatius, and Justin Martyr. (Philip Schaff, , vol.
1, pg. 201-202)
HISTORY OF THE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH: Hence, the first day was already in the apostolic
age honorably designated as "the Lord's Day." ...it appears, therefore,
from the New Testament itself, that Sunday was observed as a day of worship,
and in special commemoration of the Resurrection, whereby the work of
redemption was finished. The universal and uncontradicted Sunday observance
in the second century can only be explained by the fact that it has its
roots in apostolic practice. (Philip Schaff, , vol. 1, pg. 478-479)
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